Erika Kirk opens up about life, loss, and political discourse after her husband Charlie’s assassination.
No matter what you think about Charlie, please watch this town hall, moderated by CBS News editor-in-chief Bari Weiss.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
9:12 Angel Eduardo, FIRE’s senior writer and editor (Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression), asks, “Hi, Erica. My condolences. A recent survey that we took after Charlie’s assassination found that 90% of undergraduates believe to some extent that words can be violence. Another fire survey that we took earlier also found that one-third of surveyed students believe that using violence to stop disfavored speech can be acceptable, at least in rare cases. What’s your response to those numbers? And what would you say to those students in particular?“
17:32 Hunter Kozak, the last person to debate Charlie Kirk, asks, “Hi there. Erica, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your calls for peace and unity. And I’m likewise horrified by the people in my so-called camp who were cheering about Charlie’s murder.
I believe that they stoke the flames of violence. But even worse is when powerful, influential people on either side of the aisle stoke the flames. When they do it, the flames can become an inferno. And this leads me to Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth who has more responsibility than anyone else to put the flames out. Just last month, President Trump called on six Democratic lawmakers to be tried for sedition, which he clarified was punishable by death. He then reposted a simple message. Hang them. I think you have been making strides to bring peace to our country and that Turning Point has been asking Democrats to decry the individual who cheer for violence. I have and will continue to decry them. But any good faith effort to stop political violence must hold both parties to the same standard and expectation. So in that spirit, will you condemn the violent rhetoric of (President) Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth?“
21:49 Robert Milgrim, father of Sarah Milgrim, asks, “Thank you, Barri. Hello, Erika. Just as our family could not anticipate the pain we’ve been going through following the murder of our daughter, Sarah, there is no way I can understand the pain that you and your children are going through as a result of Charlie’s tragic death. Our daughter was killed because of anti-semitism, hate against jews, and hate against the Jewish homeland, Israel. We know about the growth of anti-semitism on the left, including here in New York City, where the mayor-elect still will not condemn the phrase, globalize the infatata. What I want you to address is growing antisemitism on the right, including holocaust denial, anti-zionism, and the normalizing of centuries-old conspiracy theories about jews. Will you here condemn the individuals spreading that hate and speak out clearly enough against anti-semitism so we can prevent another tragedy?“ Follow-up question from Robert, “Is there anything specific that Turning Point can do to combat anti-semitism?”
27:48 Barri asks. “I want to talk about discenrment, being able to separate truth from lies, reality from unreality. A 22-year-old man named Tyler Robinson has been arrested and charged with the murder of your husband. And yet there are a huge number of conspiracy theories, you might call them brain rot, that are spreading right now online about the “actual story” behind the reality. One, people say that Tyler Robinson was actually a MAGA Republican. Or two, some people say that you are a Mossad agent sitting in front of me, and you were Charlie’s handler, and Israel killed Charlie. Other people say that a number of men in the crowd were wearing maroon t-shirts, and this signifies that his killing was an elite airborne operation, whatever that means. They say that the rings on your fingers (Erika interjects, “My kids’ initials, my wedding band, The Medal of Freedom, my engagement ring.”). But apparently, they symbolize some kind of secret plot. There’s also a new theory that Egyptian aircraft have been tracking you. What is going on? Why are there so many conspiracies spread about what seems to be a pretty open and shut case?“ Follow-up question from Bari, “The podcaster Candace Owens. At one time, a friend of Charlie’s, at one time an employee of Turning Point, she had been one of the main peddlers of these conspiracies, and she is making a huge amount of money on it. She is building her business off of these lies. What do you want to say to her and the other people that are putting these lies out into the world right now?“
33:23 Rob Henderson, interviewed by Charlie Kirk last August, asks, “Thank you, Barri, and thank you, Ericka. During that discussion with Charlie, neither of us knew that was going to be the last long-form interview he would ever conduct, because his life was cut short by the actions of a very disturbed young man. As someone who admired Charlie’s ability to offer young people a productive and optimistic path, I wanted to ask, how should the conservative movement think about cultivating leaders and role models for young men, and how can it continue offering them a constructive alternative to the toxic currents Charlie so astutely criticized?“
37:14 Barri asks, “Erica, Charlie’s last book, it wasn’t about politics. It wasn’t about policy. It was about the Jewish Sabbath, which he kept for 25 hours, starting sundown on Friday night through sundown on Saturday night. What made Charlie so passionate about this subject?“
40:42 Isabella Raggi, a 26-year-old Christian woman living in NYC, asks, “Thank you. And Erica, you and your family are in my prayers. I’m a 26-year-old Christian woman living in New York City. I would like to stay here long term, but I wonder whether it’s sustainable. Do you believe there’s a place for women like myself in modern cities who care about having a career, but also marrying a like-minded Christian conservative man?“
44:57 Bari asks, “Ericka, that moment that we just watched was unforgettable. I was one of millions of people across the world who watched you get up on that stage and forgive the many who murdered your husband. And I think a lot of people looked at it and thought, This is incomprehensible. It’s almost baffling. And I want you to speak to those who are unable to understand, really, that act of grace. How is it possible that you can forgive the person who murdered your husband?” Follow-up question by Bari, “Is there a difference, Erica, between forgiving someone in a religious and spiritual sense, but also wanting justice for them here on earth?”
47:43 Joe Lavoy, St. Joseph’s Church Parishioner, asks, “Hi, thank you. Your faith in this process has been inspiring, and that inspires this question. How are you able to trust God amidst unfair and immense suffering?“
Our Note:
Erika is a very courageous woman, and both Barri Weiss and Erika must have been exhausted at the end of this interview.
There is a LOT of noise about Charlie Kirk that has been intentionally stirred up.
People like Candace Owens are only puppets to a bigger power that has been deliberately trying to destroy the Conservative movement.
The enemy.
Anyone who has pursued their dream(s) knows what happens the closer you get to their dream. You get attacked on nearly every level…
The enemy.
Most are fully aware that over the last 60+ years, many “conspiracy theories” have been bandied about and recently proven true.
The Truth.
But many do not want the conspiracy theories to die, so they keep trying to put more life into them.
The enemy.
And what happens?
More truth and details, undeniable facts, and even whistleblowers are surfacing, usually faster than the lies.
The Truth.
Erika is right - we see that in the comments to our Substack from clowns who can’t be bothered with due diligence and will believe whatever fits their feelings of hate, hate they had before even knowing Charlie Kirk, and just shed it from one person they hated for whatever reason to another until they started hating Charlie.
We have challenged a bunch of the clowns who posted such hateful comments in our Substack to provide the ENTIRE clip in which Charlie says what they claim is racist, a lie, whatever…
No surprise, NONE provided any.
We have also destroyed such comments that are straight-out lies.
All such comments posted have been deleted, and we have blocked the author of the trash.
The only ones happy to see such trash are more haters - and leaving those comments for all to see is not protecting our subscribers, it is subjecting them to unnecessary hate.
When we first heard that Ericka was going to appear on CBS in an hour-long town-hall format, we had no clue what to expect.
We do not know Barri Weiss that well, and we saw some of the previews published last week and were pleasantly surprised, very much so.
We are now praying that this is the Turning Point for CBS, abandoning the MSM lies and biases.
God willing, it could be.
Time will tell…
